Jon v. Obama

Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:00 AM

I'm going to preface this by saying, "If this isn't a stickied post on this forum, then it should be."

I have been a painfully loyal KoRn fan since Issues. I know that sounds like "wow, next thing you'll tell me you've been enjoying air since birth, right?" Sorry. I didn't know about the band at all until a friend invited me to a concert (at the ripe old age of 13). (Saw my first live breasts there. Sick and Twisted indeed, props, aw yeah, good job).

All that aside, I was hooked from that exposure. The music was amazing. The visuals were amazing. Afterward I listened to every song like it was being played at such a venue, every time. It's a powerful feeling for a young, naive teen.

For over a decade I've been able to enjoy Korn's music because it had branded me since youth. I didn't care. This shit was awesome.

Then I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9eOaSQwuI

What the hell? Is Jonathan Davis a closet republican or a crackpot? The latter is much more acceptable, but I wish someone could tell him to take a step back and think.

Less than a year ago, I heard he was going to DJ a local gig and I nearly lost my shit. Now I think he's a robot with bad programming.

Any thoughts? Any justifications?

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  1. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    On the Cob wrote:
    You guys really need to keep your music and your politics separate! I dropped Rolling Stone magazine because of all the political bullshit. Are you going to stop listening to all musicians who vote republican? You'll miss a lot of good music. How about Jews? Or gays? Dude, just enjoy the music.
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    agree with that..
    Art Saves

  2. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Hey, I just asked a question because I was curious, not because I want to use it against Jonathan I wouldn't stop listening to Korn even if Mr.Davis would turn out be Illuminati o.O
    "Become good at cheating and you never need to become good at anything."

  3. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    On the Cob wrote:
    Are you going to stop listening to all musicians who vote republican? You'll miss a lot of good music. How about Jews? Or gays? Dude, just enjoy the music.


    That's not really comparable. Race and sexuality aren't chosen, political opinions are. And yes, I will judge a man by the things he says and the opinions he holds. in this case JD is a nutjob.

  4. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    misanthrope wrote:
    On the Cob wrote:
    Are you going to stop listening to all musicians who vote republican? You'll miss a lot of good music. How about Jews? Or gays? Dude, just enjoy the music.


    That's not really comparable. Race and sexuality aren't chosen, political opinions are. And yes, I will judge a man by the things he says and the opinions he holds. in this case JD is a nutjob.


    I sell used Cds for a living. I had a customer tell me that he won't listen to any jews and he gave me a book called "Jews Who Rock" and said I shouldn't listen to them! A few examples in the book are Kiss, Anthrax, NOFX, Jane's Addiction, Dylan, The Doors, Guns n' Roses (Slash), Twisted Sister and many more!

    Some known Republican Rockers include Dave Mustaine, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, Kid Rock & Johnny Ramone (deceased). I like all of them except Kid Rock.

    I just don't understand someone having a fit because, apparently, JD is not going to vote for Obama. I'm not going to vote for Obama either.

    Also, while I've never noticed JD make a triangle symbol, the triangle has more than one meaning. :)

    To sum up what I'm trying to say is that you will never agree with all of your favorite musicians views. Just enjoy the music and accept that. For example, I have worked with Ted Nugent when he DJ'd for 102.7 The Bear (After Z-rock folded) and the man is a conceited, arrogant, animal abusing, unappreciative ass! But I still think he plays a mean axe.

    All JMO!
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  5. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Hanabi, to answer your question... Mr.Davis' view on the Illuminati has been rather unclear. From what I gather, he says his family has been part of the Illuminati, and in chat he said that he's been groomed to be a Freemason from the age of 12.

    ... make what you will of that.

    He also says he supports them, but somehow shows contempt for them by saying that Obama is their puppet... which one would assume to be a good thing from his point of view.

    It's all rather convoluted.
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  6. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    And On the Cob, part of the tradition of being someone's fan is a certain level of involvement in their personal lives. I think of the music and the person making it as two separate entities, so my dislike for the musician doesn't affect my enjoyment of the music.

    Your anti-Semitic customer was a bigot and an idiot. If he missed out on those bands, it's his loss. But paying attention to a musician's political opinions doesn't mean it will invalidate your musical experience. Some bands, namely with punk roots, are grounded in those opinions, and in that case their viewpoints can help inform and enhance your experience of their music.

    JD's decision to vote is his, regardless of whether or not I agree with it. I don't think it's reasonable to quit listening to the music over that, but neither is it reasonable to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to a musician's political stance if you choose to be informed about the rest of their private lives.

    The triangle symbol has been flashed rather often these days, and I would be extraordinarily surprised if it turned out to have some other meaning other than the one the OP assigned to it.
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  7. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Abdul Alhazred wrote:
    Hanabi, to answer your question... Mr.Davis' view on the Illuminati has been rather unclear. From what I gather, he says his family has been part of the Illuminati, and in chat he said that he's been groomed to be a Freemason from the age of 12.

    ... make what you will of that.

    He also says he supports them, but somehow shorts contempt for them by saying that Obama is their puppet... which one would assume to be a good thing from his point of view.

    It's all rather convoluted.
    ...


    I see, thank you.

    To be honest, I'm really confused by his beliefs, so I guess I'll just stick to his music.
    "Become good at cheating and you never need to become good at anything."

  8. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    The Illuminati are very much real. Jonathan is wise to see this.

  9. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    zandrolox wrote:
    The Illuminati are very much real. Jonathan is wise to see this.


    I agree.

    An excellent musician (JD) has shown me I am not crazy after all, but quite sane. For me, it makes a difference in my world knowing some else out there knows what is happening.

    "Men are not the only ones who love Hummers"

    I love you Kashmir!

  10. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    The Illuminati, if they exist, are by definition covert, Therefore, by default it is impossible to accumulate enough evidence to prove their existence or relevance in world affairs.

    Talking about being in a secret organization is laughable.

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  11. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    No he is an American. Anyone who supports Obama is not an American. He is flat oyut trying to ruin the country. Jon Davis is very smart for seeing the truth. Screw Obama and screw all the democrats out there because they hate this country.

  12. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 2:23 AM

    playFagetLive wrote:
    No he is an American. Anyone who supports Obama is not an American. He is flat oyut trying to ruin the country. Jon Davis is very smart for seeing the truth. Screw Obama and screw all the democrats out there because they hate this country.


    Are you retarded?

  13. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM

    Are you retarded?
    No pal. If you support Obama and the Democrats you have been brainwashed. They doubled the unemployment since they took over in 2008. They spent 3 times more money than any other President in hisotry in one term. He is the absoljute woirst President ever. Vote Romney if you want to have America back. If not the country is done. How is Obama a good president when he lost jobs and spent too much money? Wake up you idiots. Wake the Fuck Up like Korn says.

  14. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Firstly, I'm not American. Secondly, the global economic shit storm that lead to mass unemployment and international debt (that started in America under Bush btw) was down to the typically right wing plan of letting the rich get away with murder because they're rich. If you want to label anyone the Worst President EVAR then you had your chance between 2000 and 2008.

    If I wanted you to spoon feed me FOX News propaganda I'd ask for it. So when you're done masturbating over Glenn Beck and Bill O maybe you you can come up with constructive criticism of your own.

  15. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    This is to Misanthrope. You are brainwashed into believing Bush was a bad President. i am sure you are from Europe then? Because Europe is in shambles because they have been run by Left Wing Socialist for a long time and they have destroyed them. Look at Greece, iceland and France. All have the same beliefs as obama. You have to keep the rich happy and making money, they create jobs. We dont want food stamps and hand outs we want jobs. Having you own income allows you to go further in life. hand outs keeps u at the same level. Democrats/ Confederates love poverty. They are the racist who keep minorites locked up in the ghetto. Trust me I am ten times smarter then you because you support the ILLIMUNATI haha

  16. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Again you are misinformed/brainwashed. FOX news is the only channel that says the truth. The other stations are propaganda. Listen to the truth sayers in Glen Beck and Bill Oreilly before you sound like an idiot. And especially listen to Rush Limbaugh, he is the smartest man in politics on Earth. he should be President. Just listen to the show and hear the truth instead of being brainwashed like everyone else. Have a mind of your own.

  17. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    You gotta love political threads! I'll just keep it short and simple. I will vote for anyone but Obama. We need change ;).
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  18. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Passionately advocating Romney for president is like passionately advocating for John Wayne Gacy to run an orphanage.

    Fox News can't be considered a news channel, period. At best it is an entertainment outlet. Objectivity is the cornerstone of reporting; Fox lacks it on every front.

    As for Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilley... Beck is a soulless bigot, while Bill O'Reilley isn't harmful so much as he is incompetent.

    Beck has openly claimed that Obama is extremely racist against white people, bitched out mourning 9/11 families, said that the only Katrina victims we've been seeing on the TV (namely low-income black families) are 'the scumbags', said that the victims of California wildfires had it coming becasue they hate America, accused the first Muslim congressman of working with the 'enemy', among other things.

    He is a moron who doesn't have the humility to keep his idiocy to himself. Instead he spreads it like a plague, and people thank him for it.

    ...

  19. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Glen Beck is a soulless nut job who appealed to uneducated Americans. Fox news did one great thing ever and that was taking his stupidass off the air.

    How many people out there like to FUCK!!!

  20. RE: Jon v. Obama

    Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    playFagetLive wrote:
    This is to Misanthrope. You are brainwashed into believing Bush was a bad President.


    No, it's pretty much due to paying attention during his 2 terms.

    i am sure you are from Europe then? Because Europe is in shambles because they have been run by Left Wing Socialist for a long time and they have destroyed them.


    Nope, pretty sure it's down to the economic shit storm that started in American banks. Greed is a bitch. Some countries have been hit harder than others, Greece and Iceland being 2, Portugal and Ireland being another 2. Interesting you bring up France, whose President is a confessed right-wing politician. The UK has had a centre-right government for the last 15 years. You spoon-fed FOX nonsense is, as usual, wrong.

    All have the same beliefs as obama.


    In Europe, Obama would be considered Conservative. He is not a socialist by any definition of the word.

    You have to keep the rich happy and making money, they create jobs.


    Bullshit. Trickle down economics never works because it assumes the rich aren't the greedy, self absorbed, amoral arseholes they demonstrably are.

    We dont want food stamps and hand outs we want jobs. Having you own income allows you to go further in life.


    Only if you have a job. Nice logic though, let the poor and jobless starve. MOAR JOBS FOR EVERYONE ELSE!

    Democrats/ Confederates love poverty. They are the racist who keep minorites locked up in the ghetto.


    A political party made up of people of different ethnic backgrounds headed by a mixed race President is racist? You're a fucking idiot.

    Trust me I am ten times smarter then you because you support the ILLIMUNATI haha


    You believe the Illuminati exists and you still think you're smarter than me? Yeah, ok.

    playFagetLive wrote:
    Again you are misinformed/brainwashed. FOX news is the only channel that says the truth. The other stations are propaganda. Listen to the truth sayers in Glen Beck and Bill Oreilly before you sound like an idiot. And especially listen to Rush Limbaugh, he is the smartest man in politics on Earth. he should be President. Just listen to the show and hear the truth instead of being brainwashed like everyone else. Have a mind of your own.


    Have a mind of your own. Believe everything FOX tells you.

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